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How Persona 3 Lost Its Identity | Original VS Reload
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- Chapters -
0:00 Intro.
2:58 Did Persona 3 Need a Remake?
8:27 The Good, The Bad, The Dark Hour.
53:30 Every Frame a Painting.
1:04:43 Behind the Mask.
1:13:34 What the Future Holds.
The Persona 3 remake was pretty disappointing to me. Don’t get me wrong, I liked the game well enough; it’s just that when compared to the original I found it to be a major step back in terms of design, presentation, and even mechanically. I was really looking forward to Persona 3 Reload; I was eagerly anticipating how Atlus would update the original for modern audiences however what we ended up getting was a version of this classic game that lacks the spark and creative voice that made it so special to begin with. Again, Persona 3 Reload isn’t a bad game. But I feel as though it’s a bit of a misguided remake. And yeah, that’s pretty disappointing, to say the least. So in today’s video, we’re going to put these two games head to head and analyze them from top to bottom. It’s why you came here. But before I begin I think it’s worth it to address the two most common defenses of this remake that people use to completely shut down any of these conversations.
Number 1: the original game will always “be there” so if you don’t like the remake then just play the old game.
This line of thinking has always come off as a flimsy way to dismiss potential criticism. By that logic, altus could’ve done anything with the remake and you wouldn’t be allowed to critique it. It’s not even as if the original is easy to get ahold of anyway. This isn’t like a Final Fantasy 7 remake scenario where if you don’t like the new direction the PS1 game is just readily available. Have you seen the prices of some of these games?
Number 2: You’re just blinded by nostalgia. You only dislike parts of this game because it’s “different” and not worse.
I first played the original Persona 3 all the way back in 2014; not too long after I finished Persona 4. Believe it or not, I wasn’t too hot on the game at the time. In fact, one of the first videos I made on this channel was a deep dive into my feelings on Persona 3. In case you need a reminder, I was fairly critical towards the game and was very vocal about certain quirks I wasn’t a fan of. However, over the years since then, I’ve replayed the game quite a few times and my outlook has changed significantly. Aspects of Persona 3 that I originally saw as blemishes morphed into something a lot more positive. The unique quirks introduced and featured exclusively in Persona 3 lends this game a certain flavour that you can’t find anywhere else in this franchise. Not to everyone’s taste, but it’s impossible to deny certain factors play a massive part in carving out Persona 3’s core identity. Nostalgia has never been a deciding factor for me in any of my videos. Sure sometimes I’ll take a look at something from my younger years and will even reminisce on those memories, but I always make sure to but those innate biases aside and give my honest thoughts through my current lens.
How Persona 3 Lost Its Identity. Persona 3 Reload has been out for a few months now and in this Persona 3 Reload review, Persona 3 Reload analysis, Persona 3 Reload critique, and Persona 3 Reload retrospective, I'm going to explain why Persona 3 Reload is a Bad Remake that fundamentally misunderstands the appeal of the original Persona 3. Persona 3 Reload is a game that has a lot of nice qualities, which I will be highlighting in this Persona 3 Reload review, Persona 3 Reload critique, and Persona 3 Reload analysis. but ultimately, what I want to focus on is How Persona 3 Lost Its Identity by comparing the Original Persona 3 vs Persona 3 Reload. How Persona 3 Lost Its Identity isn't the end all be all Persona 3 Reload review, Persona 3 Reload analysis, Persona 3 Reload critique, and Persona 3 Reload retrospective, but it is the best Persona 3 Reload comparison video you can find. How Persona 3 Lost Its Identity is the best Persona 3 video by Nam's Compendium and if you want to see more Persona 3 Reload content, consider subscribing to the channel.
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  • @VibeDPyro
    @VibeDPyro 11 годин тому

    My favorite part of the game was when I was playing as Wolf and then Tony Stark drew his laser sword, because I immediately thought “Zenkichi and this guy sword fighting would be boss asf to watch as a cinematic”

  • @SnarkyTattertots-su2xt
    @SnarkyTattertots-su2xt 19 годин тому

    Bring it to the switch

  • @cameronj174
    @cameronj174 День тому

    My biggest gripe is how the vibe seems to have been ruined the original had such a dark dreary gloomy vibe and Reload completely butchers that

  • @Lazrael32
    @Lazrael32 День тому

    Weirdly my biggest problems was the awful new outfits that seem to exist because they had outfits in p5. And the new voice actors. Most did a great job but i did miss the old cast.

  • @capri4682
    @capri4682 День тому

    I didn’t know this was a SMT game

  • @sergioramirezrecinos2753
    @sergioramirezrecinos2753 День тому

    I disagree with most of the points made here but it was still a very fun video to watch and see a different perspective on P3Reload

  • @saadmirza4221
    @saadmirza4221 День тому

    Persona 3 Reload is literally Persona 5 clone. All the dark atmosphere and tone replaced with flashy atmosphere and tone. It would be fine if it were some fan made game to begin with. As for voice acting? After hearing Ken,Fuuka and Akihiko's voices, I can see very little time and effort went towards voice acting. I guess Sega looked at Final Fantasy VII Remake and thought "hey they replaced the old actors with new ones and lets do it with both Yakuza and Persona 3." One important message to SEGA. If something is not completely broken but needed minor patches here and there, dont throw it away. Fix it instead

  • @SirEvilestDeath
    @SirEvilestDeath 2 дні тому

    Angels are just demons with cleaner clothes.

  • @SirEvilestDeath
    @SirEvilestDeath 2 дні тому

    This game has been pissing me off playing through for the first time as Nero and I love it. I’m playing these games start to finish in reverse and I am seeing why they got so popular. I have to finish this and one more to go before I hit what everyone calls the shitshow that is DMC2…wish me luck.

    • @SirEvilestDeath
      @SirEvilestDeath 2 дні тому

      The story is boring, I don’t like the characters, the puzzles are retarded and fuck that Torture Chamber Room grapple bullshit! I didn’t mind the dice roll game but maybe I was lucky on that since a lot of people complain about it.

  • @sswishbone
    @sswishbone 2 дні тому

    oh you're affraid they'll remake P4? Don't be silly, they'll really trigger you and remake SMT III Nocturne

  • @calebgurney762
    @calebgurney762 2 дні тому

    I agree about persona 4 I don’t want a remake I think it’s good as is in persona 4 golden

  • @Zinriusminazen
    @Zinriusminazen 2 дні тому

    Came to watch this because I'm almost done playing Shin Megami Tensei V Vengance and while it's an amazing game, in fact its become one of my favorite RPG's of all time, I didn't feel the need to want to play the predecessor. Thank you for the story insight!

  • @jesserivera2043
    @jesserivera2043 2 дні тому

    I admit that I've never played these dancing games, but I have listened to the soundtrack and saw the dance moves for all the characters. I completely agree with your assessment of the amount of effort put into P4 compared to the rest. When you see the P4 cast dance you can instantly see how their dance styles are connected to them. Kanji would breakdance, Naoto is the type to have masculine and precise hand movements, and Yukiko, being the elegant one would practice ballet. However, and the other two they feel tacked on and weirdly out of sync to the soundtrack. Ryuji looks like an awkward hype man, Morgana lacks movement variety, and Haru seems to be practicing ballet because her character mentioned that she did in the base game.

  • @xddddddddddd4646
    @xddddddddddd4646 3 дні тому

    The best gameplay in the series but the games have lost their edge story wise.

  • @TheLPain
    @TheLPain 3 дні тому

    When you said that YHVH Universe was your favorite dungeon I physically recoiled. That dungeon alone made me lower my score for the game by about 2 points. What an absolute horrid experience.

  • @PunkThrashMetal
    @PunkThrashMetal 3 дні тому

    P3 FES is my favorite game of all time, my younger brother missed the boat and refused to play it because he hated not controlling party members. So I got to see him experience the story firsthand while he got to experience me complaining and nitpicking the entire time. I finally convinced him to try it with a controllable party member mod so we will see what someone who plays the games in reverse thinks about the story. I had fun with reload, but I didn't finish it and don't plan on it. It isn't what I wanted and clearly wasn't made for me. I instead started another FES run lmao

  • @bobbyboy_
    @bobbyboy_ 3 дні тому

    I appreciate you talking deeper into the religion and racist undertones from ffx, this game turned me away from being another wakka myself. Taught me to branch away from family and religion that was creating hate in my soul. This game changed me for the better.

  • @AllardRT
    @AllardRT 3 дні тому

    >Jak 1 was the first true open world platformer that featured a dynamic loading system Soul Reaver did this two years prior on PS1.

  • @eyoshinthemaximum
    @eyoshinthemaximum 3 дні тому

    I think Vengeance does a good job fixing a lot of the issues with V, but I’m personally pretty excited to hear your take on the matters as someone who’s played more than just V and has a history with the series beyond V

  • @captainahab2019
    @captainahab2019 3 дні тому

    Spoiler warning prevented me from watching this. I will probably never finish the game and never watch this.

  • @darkflame1254
    @darkflame1254 3 дні тому

    I always thougt chainsawman ripped off NMH

  • @qwertyasdf6589
    @qwertyasdf6589 3 дні тому

    as much as i hate the change in tone it was obviously intentional since persona appeals to a wider audience now. what’s funny is that some parts of SMT V had an “eerie high school” setting that actually reminded me a lot of og persona 3 so atlus is obviously still capable of making something like that

  • @ALEX-pk7vi
    @ALEX-pk7vi 4 дні тому

    I would love a critique of the other bayo games✨

  • @darkenkil4416
    @darkenkil4416 4 дні тому

    Persona 3 is best. Skip the video. Persona 3 never has been topped.

  • @GabrielCosta-ew5vm
    @GabrielCosta-ew5vm 4 дні тому

    I wish there was a mod that just allowed to leader to not be on the party.

  • @emmaissorryagain
    @emmaissorryagain 4 дні тому

    My party throughout reload was Junpei, Yukari, and Mitsuri and I’ve only ever changed that unless I needed too, I liked having Junepi to be the buffer while Mitsuri my magic attacker and Yukari being my healer. This might have not been the best party choice (My first persona game) I genuinely have had a ez time through my normal playthrough

    • @helpihavebats6392
      @helpihavebats6392 4 дні тому

      Honestly not the worst party. My main suggestion would be to swap Yukari with Ken as that kid has 2 Turn Theurgy that full heals and applies Party Walls meaning he’s better at healing.

  • @oxygenenjoyer8440
    @oxygenenjoyer8440 5 днів тому

    Dancing all night is a 10/10 for the intro alone

  • @undracheeva1416
    @undracheeva1416 5 днів тому

    Koromaru is the most broken party member in reload period

  • @BBK113
    @BBK113 5 днів тому

    that animation take is such a bad take icl

  • @superslicer6
    @superslicer6 5 днів тому

    Dante acts like a complete badass in this game because he knows it. Nero acts like an angst teenager who is forced to be around people.

  • @superslicer6
    @superslicer6 5 днів тому

    Personally, I think that we should get a dmc game every console gen, giving the game designers enough time to flesh it out, while also giving us an expectation on when. Also, I hope the next dmc game is available for ps5.

  • @botnight1414
    @botnight1414 5 днів тому

    This video is really good, but honestly cant help but have a sour taste in my mouth because a lot of the things you said feel like this remake is bad because its not like how you viewed and because it has influences from persona 5 It just feels like complaining because its not the same as the original, its like saying persona 4 doesnt have an identity because its built off p3 in a lot of areas, i dont understand whats with youtubers saying this is a bad remake because it doesnt feel like their vision of what persona 3 is and use their experience friend circles experiences, the whole point of the remake was to modernize p3 to make it more playable and have more people love it and while i think they could've done it better what would be the point of it if they just kept everything the same? Even the ai controlled party members with no option for commands like in fes, some of the things were logically removed because times changed, even if they had a reason to be there (Forced Ai party members and the fatigue system) It feels like a huge switch up having so many videos saying "actually this is a bad remake" and while i dont think theyre bad (a of them were really good), it just feels like complaining because it wasnt what they think is persona 3, therefore its a bad remake and some of them claim they know more abt p3 than anybody, a lot of them just feel disingenuous. Reload doesnt invalidate any of the other versions, its just different, just because its different doesnt mean its a bad remake, and while i think it could've been a lot better in some areas i dont think not having things that were in the original make it a bad remake, hell, id say people should also play the original + portable if they tried reload because all p3 games are their own thing in a way Nonetheless i think this video is genuinely really good, even if i have my issues with it i enjoyed it quite a bit

  • @josephleiber9879
    @josephleiber9879 5 днів тому

    I’m still working my way through Persona 3 Portable on Switch. It’s a really fascinating game. At first I rolled my eyes when I saw your video on my feed, since I heard P3R is so much better. However, you make some really good points. Good video.

  • @Enigma75614
    @Enigma75614 5 днів тому

    I know that they kind of already did it with the Persona Q games, but I’d like to see a crossover game where SEES, the Investigation Team, and the Phantom Thieves team up to fight a huge threat. I’d also like for it to have a dark tone where characters actually die.

    • @alex-8736
      @alex-8736 День тому

      That's never going to happen

    • @Enigma75614
      @Enigma75614 День тому

      @@alex-8736 Which part? The dark tone, or the crossover?

  • @Enigma75614
    @Enigma75614 5 днів тому

    I know that they kind of already did it with the Persona Q games, but I’d like to see a crossover game where SEES, the Investigation Team, and the Phantom Thieves team up to fight a huge threat. I’d also like for it to have a dark tone where characters actually die.

  • @TheGameDomeGuy
    @TheGameDomeGuy 5 днів тому

    redifining my ass smt 4 (the normal one not Apocalypse) is the best one

  • @thankyounothankyou9722
    @thankyounothankyou9722 5 днів тому

    12:15 herrrrr... Yes it is?

  • @theresidentrogue9975
    @theresidentrogue9975 6 днів тому

    I've come to really love your videos and content for Persona so I've been waiting for this *Akihiko voice* Weirdly makes me sad you didn't enjoy this one as much but not a criticism to your likes or not as everything has been explained so well in the video. I think I am almost lucky I never played the original game! Persona 5 remains my favourite of the series but people are getting burnt out from it and I feel it's tainting people's opinions of it. The sooner Persona 6 is announced the better! Thank you for all your content Nam!

  • @showerthoughts1015
    @showerthoughts1015 6 днів тому

    Reload is better then the originals change my mind

  • @showerthoughts1015
    @showerthoughts1015 6 днів тому

    Love how he just doesn't acknowledge emulating the original p3 p3f or p3p as an option. It is logical that the game is going to feel completely different because 17 years have passed since the original. Most of the original developers would have probably quit by now. Trying to make it feel more like persona 5 is what killed the mood.

  • @mattthegoat606
    @mattthegoat606 6 днів тому

    I disagree, this little video of yours won't change my opinion and if you didn't like persona 3 reload or persona 5 then I suggest you don't even buy persona 6 and forget about this saga

    • @mattthegoat606
      @mattthegoat606 5 днів тому

      @B_D75 If it's not going to change someone's opinion then there's no reason for it to exist and if he is expecting a perfect game he will be left waiting, there are no perfect games, and like I said if you don't like it, don't play it anymore.Part of the community liked this remake, what are they going to do? Say they don't really like the persona? This should definitely be the next step.